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Brazilian Rosewood
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Seems to me a while back someone posted a tutorial on how to do a v joint instead of a scarf joint. I can't seem to find it. Does anyone remember that and know where I can find it?


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Robbie

Is this the one you are after ?

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That is the one! Thanks!


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There are two styles of V joint with strong proponents on both sides.

The first is the Romanillos style in which the V-joint is cut clear through as in the article above. The best description of that is in the American Lutherie number 63, Fall 2000 in which Geza has a step by step with good pictures of each step. It is a better description of the process than the Senseney article on MIMF.

The second style is the Hauser style whch is sometimes refered to as the fussen (are based) or covered v-joint in which the tongue of the V is tapered and fits into a dovetail like pocket which is not sawn all the way through but rather stops about 2mm shy. The way to tell immediately on any V joint guitar (even though there is usually a headplate covering the joint detail) is that to cut the fussen style V joint because the v joint stops 2mm of the surface, the headstock will be 2mm higher and with the headplate almost to the top of the nut.

The covered V Joint is documented very well at http://www.mimf.com/schramm_covered_v-joint.htm . It is a much stronger joint but much less repairable than a through V joint. It is also much harder to make so unless I am building a guitar that is an homage to Hauser and trying to be completely authentic I use a romanillos style open V joint.

Only when I am building a Torres model do I use a scarf joint as Torres did not use a V joint but rather a scarf joint.



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Shawn,
Thanks for the info but the link appears to be outdated. Is there another way to find this info?



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Go to the MIMF, log in, search the library for 'V-joint'.


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